Monday, December 5, 2011

Fresnozionism - Israeli democracy? Or US elections?

Hillary Clinton complaining that Israel
is becoming undemocratic
Fresnozionism.org
04 December '11

http://fresnozionism.org/2011/12/israeli-democracy-or-us-elections/

One of the themes beloved by Jewish-American critics of Israel like Peter Beinart and Rabbi Richard Jacobs has been that Israel is insufficiently democratic. This is also a staple for the Israeli Left whenever Israel’s democratically elected government does something they don’t like.

In particular, the Knesset has been debating several possible approaches to ending or at least reducing foreign funding of Israeli NGOs that delegitimize or demonize the state, interfere with its security, engage in ‘lawfare’ against it, and so forth.

Naturally the individuals for whom these organizations — which have very little indigenous Israeli support — constitute a meal ticket, are screaming bloody murder.

Now the US Secretary of State has joined the crowd:

WASHINGTON – US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton voiced deep concern on Saturday over a wave of anti-democratic legislation in Israel and in particular a bill proposing to limit donations to human rights organizations. Clinton also criticized the growing exclusion of women from Israel’s public life…

Clinton, a longtime advocate for women’s rights, noted she was shocked at the fact that some Jerusalem buses have assigned separate seating areas for women. “It’s reminiscent of Rosa Parks,” she said, referring to the black American woman who refused to give up her seat to white passengers in the 1950s.

Referring to the decision of some IDF soldiers to leave an event where female soldiers were singing, she said it reminded her of the situation in Iran. [my emphasis]

It should be made clear that neither of the phenomena related to women mentioned are government-sanctioned or widespread like bus segregation was in the US. They are confined to ultra-observant communities (in one case, observant IDF soldiers and the other, hareidi neighborhoods in Jerusalem). Israel’s government and legal system operate on secular principles, and feminism is a powerful force in Israel. I think we can depend on Israelis to solve this one by themselves.



As a feminist and secularist, Clinton should be concerned about the appearance of an association for “the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice” that is being organized in newly-’democratic’ Tunisia. Or perhaps she could comment on the report of a ‘high-level advisory group’ in Saudi Arabia that allowing women to drive would “threaten the country’s traditions of virgin brides.”

The issue of foreign funding for NGOs, however, is quite a serious matter, and it is very disappointing to hear the US echoing the frustrated, disenfranchised Israeli Left. After all, the US has a Foreign Agents Registration Act to ensure transparency of funding for organizations in the US.

Israel is a small country and a few tens or hundreds of millions of dollars here and there can have a strong effect on its conduct of foreign affairs and internal politics, and could even tip the balance in a close election (here are some examples of funding from European governments — note that it doesn’t include church organizations or the US-based New Israel Fund, major contributors to anti-state NGOs).

Another example of “anti-democratic” legislation is a bill which would increase the limit on penalties for libel without damage to $80,000 from its present limit of about $13,000. Proponents say that the present low limits are not a deterrent to media assassinations of public figures.

Finally, there is a bill which will change the way the justices of the Supreme Court are chosen. Today the 9-member selection committee includes three members of the Court itself, two cabinet ministers, two representatives of the Bar Association, and two Knesset members (one from the coalition and one from the opposition).

The Court members plus the Bar Association have managed to dominate the committee in recent history, leading to a self-perpetuating ideologically left-wing court. The bill wants to require that the Bar Association members also be split between the coalition and the opposition.

Whatever you think of these bills — and I think they represent a much-needed correction in the degree to which the unelected left-wing media and judiciary, along with foreign-funded NGOs, influence Israeli governance — they are not anti-democratic.

And they are most certainly not the business of the US State Department or the Obama Administration.

What is behind this sudden surge of concern for Israel’s democracy? In the past few days we’ve heard the Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, blame Israel for the lack of progress in the worse-than-useless ‘peace process’, and now Ms. Clinton gives aid and comfort to the left-wing opposition to PM Netanyahu.

My interpretation is that this is an effort to a) pressure Netanyahu to make more concessions to the PLO — anything to get an appearance of ‘progress’ to boost Obama’s pretension of being a successful leader in foreign affairs, and b) to keep Democratic Jewish voters and contributors in line despite his increasingly anti-Israel policies.

In other words, it’s all about November 2012.

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2 comments:

  1. Hillary Clinton is "shocked, just shocked" !!
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    Mouthpiece for Obama Administration sets a new low in current American politics
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    Re remarks from Fresnozionism.org attached herein:

    "Clinton, a longtime advocate for women’s rights, noted she was shocked at the fact that some Jerusalem buses have assigned separate seating areas for women. “It’s reminiscent of Rosa Parks,” she said, referring to the black American woman who refused to give up her seat to white passengers in the 1950s."

    Every time I witness the Obama camp do and say things that seem to break all records in setting new lows in politics and plain simple adherence to honesty and truthful reporting of facts, we have now been forced to witness Obama's official "Motor-mouth"- Ms. Hillary Clinton, knowingly lie through her teeth.

    Can anything be more sickening than to hear her compare the ancient religious custom of separate seating of men and women on buses in certain Israeli neighborhoods to the racist and overtly humiliating Jim Crow days practice of forcing blacks on US buses in the South to surrender their paid for seat to a white passenger who demanded that bus seat. And then to add insult to injury be forced to go to the back of the bus.

    For Ms. Long-over-the "Hill" Clinton to insult and demean a precious historical memory from the Civil Rights Era by comparing the position the courageous Rosa Parks found herself in one hot afternoon on a public bus to how seating is arranged on certain Israeli buses for men and women to accomodate a particular religious custom, is so over the top insulting to one's intelligence it beggars the imagination.

    Ms. Clinton knows very well her attempted comparison is totally groundless and historicaly inappropriate. The two situations have nothing in common save that both involve public buses.

    How dare Ms. Clinton attempt to make the comparison she has stated for the record.

    Over the years I have grown less and less enamoured with the "ways and means" of Ms. Clinton. But her latest knowingly false and outrageous attempt to zero in on the bus system in certain Israeli neighborhoods that have no intention in word or deed or reality to subject anyone- whether male or female, to any form of humiliation, is for me the last straw.

    I never would have believed Clinton was capable of sinking to such a low as to turn truth and logic on its head in the course of promoting her paymaster Obama's increasingly disturbing and dangerous agenda re the Middle East.

    May I be allowed to quote and paraphrase those powerful words spoken by an attorney of great reknown during the 1950's McCarthy Hearings.

    "Have you no shame Ms. Clinton? "Have you at long last no shame at all? "

    They used to say that "a dog that will fetch a bone, will carry a bone". I would be surprised if Ms. Clinton's teeth are not starting to feel just a little pained these days. She has certainly come a long way from the young and brash "seeker of Truth at any cost", she was in her University days so long ago and far away.

    How Ms. Clinton is to be pitied as she tries to hang on to some semblance of a political future regardless of the cost to her good name.
    Is it not enough to make the Angels bow their heads and weep.

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  2. I found myself on an Israeli bus, where the only available seat was next to a Hareidi man. The look he gave me as I approached was enough to make me feel like a disease-ridden leper, and it prevented me from sitting there.

    Whist I observe the Torah of Judaism, I have to say that the levels of female/male separation in some communities seem indicative of severe neurosis and mental sickness.

    The implications of this tradition are that a male's lust is so beyond his own control that it cannot withstand a woman sitting next to him on a bus full of other people.

    In my travels, always dressed with full modesty, I have greeted men going into shul with "Shabbat shalom" and been completely ignored. I have been lost in Israel and turned to a 'religious' man to ask for directions, while he walked right past me as though I didn't not exist. Thank G-d for the secular Israeli who saw me as a distressed human being, not a sexual threat. Otherwise I might still be sleeping on the street near the airport.

    Fidelity is important. There is, however, something very wrong with a mindset that never sees a women as a human being, but always as the sexually threatening 'other'. And makes sure she is the ones who pays for it by exclusion from many precious rites.

    To paraphrase an old saying, "If you can't cope with the humans, GET OFF THE BUS."

    I'm quite sure this neurotic kind of behaviour is not what G-d had in mind when He gave the Torah. Especially when the most oft repeated commandment, (more than "Don't kill", more that "Don't steal"), is repeated 36 TIMES :

    "Be kind to the stranger amongst you, for you were once strangers in the land of Egypt."

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